Sunday, April 26, 2009

Trumpet..........?

what are some ways to get a trumpets valves moving faster without stretching the springs?

Trumpet..........?
take brasso and put it on a rag then just run the rag through the valve casing until no more black **** comes out. your valves will be like glass then.
Reply:Stretching the springs is not a good idea.





Like others have suggested, getting your valves to move faster is a combination of maintenance and conditioning on your part.





Maintenance:





The trumpet should be cleaned regularly and you should obtain a trumpet cleaning kit with a valve casing-sized brush. I use the kit in the link I have provided below and find it to be very effective; it uses sponges instead of bristles, so it won't scratch the inside of your horn. When you clean your valves, wipe existing oil off and recoat the piston.





Oil choice is also an important factor. Depending on the age and use of your horn, it may need a different type of oil. There are also two types of oil: organic and synthetic. I believe the price is around the same, though some argue synthetic keeps the horn cleaner and the valves moving faster. I would recommend Al Cass brand for organic or Hetman for synthetic. Never mix organic with synthetic because you might get a gummy residue. Always clean the piston and casing thoroughly before shifting types.





Check the pistons for corrosion. If there is any, this may be causing the valves to move slower, and it can be remedied by taking the horn in.


I had a horn where the springs corroded and stuck together. Sometimes, like in my case, all that is needed are new spings.








Conditioning:





You must have proper finger position on the valves or else that will eventually cause corrosion, wear on the valve, and the piston to stick. Push the valve straight down. Your right thumb should be tucked between the first and second valves (or second and third if your hands are big), which allows the fingers to take the proper claw shape over the valves. Playing with your thumb cradling the leadpipe before the valve casement will cause your fingers to go slower and to apply pressure to the valves at an angle, bad for the valves.





Keeping your pinky finger in the pinky ring will help hand positioning as well.





A common bad habit for players is a tendency to push the valves down slower on slower tunes and harder and faster in quicker passages. Get in the habit of always "banging down" the valves quickly. The faster you push it down, the faster it will come up.





Scales are your friend for muscle memory and finger strengthening, and finger flexibility. I am skeptical to recommend any sort of external device for it. If you want to get your valves and fingers really moving, try B major on eighth notes at 160bpm!
Reply:Use special oil every time before and after you play... So your trumpet will be in a good condition every time!
Reply:Well if you have already bent your wires then that's what making your trumpet slow down. It warps the wire even though it looks alright. Clean your trumpet or go get it cleaned if you don't know how. Oil the valves before you play. I wish I knew more but that's all I know about the trumpet. I took an instrument care and repair class and that's what I can tell you. Go get it checked out in a shop to see if it needs cleaned or something replaced.
Reply:I'll assume you know how to properly clean your trumpet and use a quality vavle oil, like Al Cass.





If you've done all the basic stuff, then it's time to take it to a professional. It could be that the springs are worn out. New springs would help tremendously. It could also be corrosion on the valve or valve casing that simple cleaning can't get rid of. A repair tech can clean it a lot better than you can. If the plating is worn off the valve you can also get that fixed as well.
Reply:I always used water and a rag to clean them thoroughly, then lots of valve oil, but I was never a professional player.





Played in Concert, Jazz, and Marching Bands 7th through 12 th grade. Also played in command band while in school in the Navy. Dated a professional trumpet player for over 2 years, not sure what he did to make his move fast, but he could play really well (lots of salsa and meringue type music).
Reply:finger techniques, pushing the valves down correctly is harder than it seems


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